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So...how ELSE do they pay for the expenses of passengers who experience delays or flight cancellations Keith? Remember, this was brought about by EU LAWYERS in the first place...NOT RYANAIR. CURE THE PROBLEM,NOT THE RESULT!!! RYANAIR ARE NOT A CHARITY. Yet some people seem to think they are entitled to low-cost travel as a given divine right.
IF you CAN'T afford to FLY, then DON'T FLY!! Take a coach, or train, walk, cycle...grow wings...but for heaven's sake.....
Sorry for the rant...but I see this 'entitlement' attitude more and more every day. And the ad hominem rants against Ryanair just get old so quickly
Please remember...these 'expenses' were caused by people too mean to buy holiday travel insurance!!BLAME THEM!!!But you want to blame Ryanair for a freaking VOLCANO erupting, for example?? Next thing people will want their Lottery and Bingo money back if they don't win.
You do realise, I hope, that without Ryanair and Easyjet to name but 2, the major airlines would be free to raise their prices as much as they wished without their competition to restrict them from doing so...and what would you say THEN?
Apr 1st, 2011 - 1:32 AM
Nino
Hi Nick, every time I fly Ryanair, when we land you get the irritating clapping and cheering for themselfs, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE A MORE THAN 95% RATE OF ARRIVING ON TIME. If this is true, why do they need to chatge us for their delays? Another question: if you, me and the ladies go out for a meal, and I pay with my card, the restaurant gets charged ONCE for accepting the card. Ryanair will charge me 5 TIMES (=50 euros, where they only pay maybe pay 1% to VISA) if I travel with my family and use my card to pay for it (and there is NO ALTERNATIVE) Visa electron used to be free of charge, because they get the money instantly, but they charge you now aswell. No doubt they do some good deals, but if the local goverment gave you a fraction of the money they give to Ryanair, you could do gigs for 10 euros a night. And just wait and see what happens when the contract runs out. They will sqeeze us like an orange, and when no more money is made available, they will drop us like a hot potatoe.
Nino. I would love to buy a new car...but I can't afford one. Simple isn't it? There is no writing on the wall saying anybody is obliged to lower their prices for the convenience of their potential customers (YOU should know that better than most
)We have been spoilt rotten over the last few years, and we got comfy with it. Now it is time to ride the rough train, or stay at home.
Salou would be in deeper doo-doo than it is NOW, without Ryanair. Why? because they force the Airlines AND the Tour Companies to compete. And ,of course, the many thousands of independent travellers they bring to Salou.
Please remember, finally...NOBODY HERE, OR ANYWHERE ELSE,FOR THAT MATTER, know how much Ryanair take from the citys they fly to, or how much they have to pay out again for a million other things.
WHy should the Hotels where delayed passengers get to stay the night be allowed to charge MORE at that time than normal...and yet Ryanair have to pay for those people to STAY there. That ain't right now...is it?
Point-of-sale methods are the sole right of the vendor, and the right to refuse to buy is that of the purchaser. Simple economics tells you that they survive, and do well on their system. Stop trying to run somebody else's business for them! I think I will visit you sometime and start telling you what to do there
I am pretty sure I know what the result would be...
Apr 2nd, 2011 - 2:39 PM
nick
Nino
Hi Nick, every time I fly Ryanair, when we land you get the irritating clapping and cheering for themselfs, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE A MORE THAN 95% RATE OF ARRIVING ON TIME. If this is true, why do they need to chatge us for their delays? Another question: if you, me and the ladies go out for a meal, and I pay with my card, the restaurant gets charged ONCE for accepting the card. Ryanair will charge me 5 TIMES (=50 euros, where they only pay maybe pay 1% to VISA) if I travel with my family and use my card to pay for it (and there is NO ALTERNATIVE) Visa electron used to be free of charge, because they get the money instantly, but they charge you now aswell. No doubt they do some good deals, but if the local goverment gave you a fraction of the money they give to Ryanair, you could do gigs for 10 euros a night. And just wait and see what happens when the contract runs out. They will sqeeze us like an orange, and when no more money is made available, they will drop us like a hot potatoe.
Nino. I would love to buy a new car...but I can't afford one. Simple isn't it? There is no writing on the wall saying anybody is obliged to lower their prices for the convenience of their potential customers (YOU should know that better than most
)We have been spoilt rotten over the last few years, and we got comfy with it. Now it is time to ride the rough train, or stay at home.
Salou would be in deeper doo-doo than it is NOW, without Ryanair. Why? because they force the Airlines AND the Tour Companies to compete. And ,of course, the many thousands of independent travellers they bring to Salou.
Please remember, finally...NOBODY HERE, OR ANYWHERE ELSE,FOR THAT MATTER, know how much Ryanair take from the citys they fly to, or how much they have to pay out again for a million other things.
WHy should the Hotels where delayed passengers get to stay the night be allowed to charge MORE at that time than normal...and yet Ryanair have to pay for those people to STAY there. That ain't right now...is it?
Point-of-sale methods are the sole right of the vendor, and the right to refuse to buy is that of the purchaser. Simple economics tells you that they survive, and do well on their system. Stop trying to run somebody else's business for them! I think I will visit you sometime and start telling you what to do there
I am pretty sure I know what the result would be...Hi Nick, I've taken some time, and given it a lot of thought, And done some research. Ryanair carries about 1,3 million passengers a week, multiplied by 2 euros makes 2,6 MILLION EUROS A WEEK. Add this to the fact that Ryanair is notorious for leaving passengers abandoned in the middle of the night at closed airports, to what conclusion might one come? Do you remember when they first introduced paying for luggage? A barrel of oil cost about 140$ so they had to charge us for luggage. Fair enough, I can't argue with that. When oil dropped to 40$ a barrel, Ryanair changed the charge for suitcases, putiing it up from 10€ to 15€. My argument is notwhether they should charge or not, it's about the lies. Seventy-five years ago this would have been called propaganda, nowadays they call it spin, to me it's just lies. They claim that over 95% of their flights are on time, why do they need 2,6 MILLION EUROS A WEEK to pay for hotels?
On the matter of DOO-DOO. As long as we keep pooring money into Ryanair (a private company) they will keep flying to Reus. As soon as the money stops we will be in the DOO-DOO. Subsidies are ment to get a company started, not to finance it indefenately. Also as a fervent anti-socialist you shouldn't be defending mr. O'Leary, the king of spin and free enterprise (on goverment money). I understand that he is there to make money, and that is no crime, but the way he lies to us is insulting. I wonder how you or anyone else would feel if I advertised a 10 oz steak for 3 euros, and subsequently charge you for the plate it comes on, the cutlery you ask for, the chair you sit on, the chef that cooks it, and the waiter that serves it.
Something to think about?
Apr 14th, 2011 - 11:51 AM
Ryanair bashing is on live UK TV in about 25 minutes... tune into BBC1, 8pm BST - Watchdog!
Apr 14th, 2011 - 8:35 PM
Nino
nick
Nino
Hi Nick, every time I fly Ryanair, when we land you get the irritating clapping and cheering for themselfs, WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE A MORE THAN 95% RATE OF ARRIVING ON TIME. If this is true, why do they need to chatge us for their delays? Another question: if you, me and the ladies go out for a meal, and I pay with my card, the restaurant gets charged ONCE for accepting the card. Ryanair will charge me 5 TIMES (=50 euros, where they only pay maybe pay 1% to VISA) if I travel with my family and use my card to pay for it (and there is NO ALTERNATIVE) Visa electron used to be free of charge, because they get the money instantly, but they charge you now aswell. No doubt they do some good deals, but if the local goverment gave you a fraction of the money they give to Ryanair, you could do gigs for 10 euros a night. And just wait and see what happens when the contract runs out. They will sqeeze us like an orange, and when no more money is made available, they will drop us like a hot potatoe.
Nino. I would love to buy a new car...but I can't afford one. Simple isn't it? There is no writing on the wall saying anybody is obliged to lower their prices for the convenience of their potential customers (YOU should know that better than most
)We have been spoilt rotten over the last few years, and we got comfy with it. Now it is time to ride the rough train, or stay at home.
Salou would be in deeper doo-doo than it is NOW, without Ryanair. Why? because they force the Airlines AND the Tour Companies to compete. And ,of course, the many thousands of independent travellers they bring to Salou.
Please remember, finally...NOBODY HERE, OR ANYWHERE ELSE,FOR THAT MATTER, know how much Ryanair take from the citys they fly to, or how much they have to pay out again for a million other things.
WHy should the Hotels where delayed passengers get to stay the night be allowed to charge MORE at that time than normal...and yet Ryanair have to pay for those people to STAY there. That ain't right now...is it?
Point-of-sale methods are the sole right of the vendor, and the right to refuse to buy is that of the purchaser. Simple economics tells you that they survive, and do well on their system. Stop trying to run somebody else's business for them! I think I will visit you sometime and start telling you what to do there
I am pretty sure I know what the result would be...Hi Nick, I've taken some time, and given it a lot of thought, And done some research. Ryanair carries about 1,3 million passengers a week, multiplied by 2 euros makes 2,6 MILLION EUROS A WEEK. Add this to the fact that Ryanair is notorious for leaving passengers abandoned in the middle of the night at closed airports, to what conclusion might one come? Do you remember when they first introduced paying for luggage? A barrel of oil cost about 140$ so they had to charge us for luggage. Fair enough, I can't argue with that. When oil dropped to 40$ a barrel, Ryanair changed the charge for suitcases, putiing it up from 10€ to 15€. My argument is notwhether they should charge or not, it's about the lies. Seventy-five years ago this would have been called propaganda, nowadays they call it spin, to me it's just lies. They claim that over 95% of their flights are on time, why do they need 2,6 MILLION EUROS A WEEK to pay for hotels?
On the matter of DOO-DOO. As long as we keep pooring money into Ryanair (a private company) they will keep flying to Reus. As soon as the money stops we will be in the DOO-DOO. Subsidies are ment to get a company started, not to finance it indefenately. Also as a fervent anti-socialist you shouldn't be defending mr. O'Leary, the king of spin and free enterprise (on goverment money). I understand that he is there to make money, and that is no crime, but the way he lies to us is insulting. I wonder how you or anyone else would feel if I advertised a 10 oz steak for 3 euros, and subsequently charge you for the plate it comes on, the cutlery you ask for, the chair you sit on, the chef that cooks it, and the waiter that serves it.
Something to think about?
CAVEAT EMPTOR
Apr 15th, 2011 - 11:21 PM
A line out of the Ryanair publication on results:
RYANAIR’S FULL YEAR PROFIT RISES 204%
Why do they need another 2,6 mln a week (=135 mln/year)extra?
A quote from Wikipedia: Caveat emptor, pronounced /ˌkævi.ɑːt ˈɛmptɔr/, is Latin for "Let the buyer beware".
Generally, caveat emptor is the property law doctrine that controls the sale of real property after the date of closing.(yes, I had to look it up, but I'm still confused)
Finally, prices of travel and holidays in general have been dropping for a long time now. Where a holiday in Spain for a family would cost a chunk out of their budget, now it's a lot cheaper, because there is a lot more competition. And it's dropped even more due to the crisis. Ryanair is a factor in this, but not all the credit goes to them.
Apr 20th, 2011 - 2:06 PM
You get what you pay for, and ryanair is the best thing since sliced bread, cheap and reliable. If you dont like what they offer its simple use another carrier.
