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Keith
 Aug 8, 06 - 11:53 AM |
Tax, DFRDB and Other Matters
From: Keith Tennent To: WA RSL ; VVFA National ; Victorian RSL ; Vic TPI ; TPI Federation ; Tas TPI ; Tas RSL ; SA RSL ; Queensland RSL ; NSW TPI ; NSW RSL ; National RSL ; Capricornia RSL ; Barry Billing ; ACT RSL ; PVA Sec ; RSL Nat President ; ACT TPI ; WA TPI ; PVA Research and Benefits Member ; Qld VVFA ; TVille VVFA ; Victoria VVFA ; VVAA Sunshine Coast ; PVA Pres ; President EDA Cc: Parliamentary List ; Main Vet List Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: VETERAN REPLIES TO MP REGARDING TAX AND OTHER MATTERS Good morning. There has been quite a lot of email exchange between Bernie McGurgan, a former serving Army Officer, and Peter Lindsay MP, regarding the Governments tax take, the GST and superannuation. I recently emailed Peter Lindsay in response to an email he sent which stated Premier Beattie and the Queensland Government could reduce the GST on petrol to make economic life easier for TPIs and DFRDB superannuants. The BELOW was the last reply from Peter Lindsay, and FOLLOWING is Bernie McGurgan's response to the latest from MP Lindsay. Hi Keith. Easy answer. Before the oil price shock, the GST vets were paying on petrol was about 8 cents a litre. Following the price rises, vets now pay 13.5 cents a litre GST. By choosing to freeze the State GST collection at 8 cents a litre, Vets will save 5.5 cents on every litre they purchase. Is that now clear? Peter From: Keith Tennent spiritus@tpg.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 6:37 AM To: Lindsay, Peter (MP) Cc: Main Vet List Subject: THE GST AND PETER BEATTIE Good morning Peter. Regarding your last reply on the subject of the GST collection in Qld and various emails from Bernie McGurgan.........................where you finally stated....... Keith You are right. There is no mystery in the GST...it all belongs to the States. I replied to Bernie about GST on petrol. Just as the Commonwealth has an existing arrangement with the Qld government to provide a rebate on fuel sold in Queensland, this rebate can be extended. The full GST would still be collected as per Federal legislation but an agreed rebate can be paid back so the net GST take does not continue to rise. You would agree with that. Peter Can you explain to us HOW your proposal would put more money into already near empty pockets of many, many TPIs and DFRDB superannuants? This, after all, is where this email ping pong diplomacy really started. Thank you. Keith. ****************** From: Bernie McGurgan Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Fw: THE GST AND PETER BEATTIE I wrote a letter ages ago to Federal Govt suggesting that FUEL should be exempt GST for TPI's etc, no relevant response from Government as they collect each year around $9.8 billion via Excise and $1.7 billion via GST (2004/05 figures) on all fuel sales in OZ! As you know EXCISE is around 38.143 cents per litre and GST 13.5 cents per litre, giving the Feds around 51.643 cents per litre of which 13.5 cents per litre is forwarded on to the States via GST revenue! The States would not wish to change this! Lindsay is throwing in "red herrings", the fuel situation is a Fed Govt responsibility! What State Govt would wish to receive less from Canberra via GST! Howard lies, he can lower EXCISE but it would cost him ! If he lowers Excise (price at bowser) around 10 cents per litre it would lower his revenue by around $1.0 billion! He would still receive $8.8 billion per year via excise to spend! The problem is they rely too much on Excise to balance the bloody books etc! Oil price shock is crap, USA, Europe and rest of world is managing to get around fuel prices! The other big expense is shipping our unrefined oil to Singapore and thence back home as petrol/diesel etc, all costs added to price of fuel! We need to become more self relient and get away from the Singapore fuel pricing arrangement, which Howard set up etc! Bernie |
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Keith
Aug 8th, 2006 - 3:22 PM |
Re: Tax, DFRDB and Other Matters
From: Edwards, Graham (MP) To: Keith Tennent Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: RE: VETERAN REPLIES TO MP REGARDING TAX AND OTHER MATTERS Keith, And if the Federal Govt got its hands out of the tax payer's pocket on fuel excise we would all save 50c a litre. Qld already has the lowest tax take on fuel and I wonder why Peter Lindsay is so keen to spend State Govt revenue when he won't advocate for an decrease in Federal revenue or an increase in Federal Govt. spending on Vets. The other point is that the cost of fuel has continued to rise ever since we went into Iraq. The liberal party said the price of fuel would fall when we went into Iraq. How wrong they were then and now. Cheers Graham Edwards |
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Keith
Aug 9th, 2006 - 10:10 AM |
Re: Tax, DFRDB and Other Matters
Sent by Tracee McPate on behalf of Senator Andrew Bartlett Mr Keith Tennent - parliamentarylist-bounces@theaussiedigger.com Dear Mr Tennent Thank you for forwarding this email regarding changes to the DFRDB and DFRB superannuation schemes. I have received a few queries from Veterans on this issue and have tried to ascertain what is happening and at this point there is no information available on changes to the DFRDB and DFRB schemes. I have been advised that any changes to these schemes would require legislation and at this point there is no legislation planned for either debate or introduction into the Parliament. The Democrats have always taken the view that superannuation choice is important and would be wary of any move that would disadvantage people due to an election of funds over which they had no control. We fully recognise the important role that defence personnel have in society and would support a non-discriminatory approach to their superannuation entitlements. I can assure you that the Democrats will be monitoring the introduction of any legislation which outlines these changes or any statements highlighting the introduction of these changes. Thank you again for taking the time to bring this issue to my attention. Yours sincerely Senator Andrew Bartlett Andrew Bartlett Queensland Democrat Senator since 1997 Ph 07 3252 7101 Fax 07 3252 8957 website: www.andrewbartlett.com & web diary: www.andrewbartlett.com/blog From: Keith Tennent Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:04 AM To: WA RSL; VVFA National; Victorian RSL; Vic TPI; TPI Federation; Tas TPI; Tas RSL; SA RSL; Queensland RSL; NSW TPI; NSW RSL; National RSL; Capricornia RSL; Barry Billing; ACT RSL; PVA Sec; RSL Nat President; ACT TPI; WA TPI; PVA Research and Benefits Member; Qld VVFA; TVille VVFA; Victoria VVFA; VVAA Sunshine Coast; PVA Pres; President EDA Cc: Parliamentary List; Main Vet List Subject: VETERAN WANTS ANSWERS ON TAX AND VETERAN SUPERANNUATION From: Bernie McGurgan To: higgins@aph.gov.au ; senator.minchin@aph.gov.au Cc: b.nelson.MP@aph.gov.au ; B.Billson.MP@aph.gov.au ; senator.sandy.macdonald@aph.gov.au ; vrooney@bigpond.com.au ; complaints@comsuper.gov.au ; pensions@dfrdb.gov.au ; military.pensioners@comsuper.gov.au Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: FUTURE TAX ON DFRDB/DFRB SUPERANNUATION SCHEMES Gidday Ministers, welcome back to that cold place called Canberra! I write in regard to proposed changes to taxation on superannuation schemes after JUL 07! As you are aware it is intended that the changes will effect all schemes for superannuants over 60 years of age throughout Australia, except those ex Australian Defence Force (ADF) members and ex Commonwealth Public Servants (PS) on the DFRDB/DFRB/PSS and CSS superannuation schemes!. Upon entering the Officer Cadet School (OCS) at Portsea on 08 JUL 65 I was immediately given no choice in regards to superannuation and had 5.5% of my meagre fortnightly wage compulsory paid into the ADF superannuation scheme called DFRDB! Its sister scheme, the DFRB scheme had been running for older ADF members since the 1950's! Both schemes were self perpetuating, had invested wisely, and met all the superannuation requirements of discharging ADF personnel and the Government of the time! Along came Whitlam and in 1973, starved of funds, Whitlam decided to acquire some $200 million of DFRDB/DFRB funds and place both schemes into consolidated revenue! This had the effect of giving Whitlam our superannuation money, to do with as he pleased, and placing the two schemes into an "unfunded" status when compared to other civilian superannuation schemes! My questions are simple: (A) Should not the Chairman and the Board of Trustees of the DFRDB/DFRB superannuation schemes during 1972/74 be held accountable for allowing the blatant misappropriation of our accumulated superannuation funds by Whitlam during 1973/74? (B) Should not the Chairman and Board of Tustees of the DFRDB/DFRB superannuation funds during 1972/74 be charged with dereliction of their responsibilities and indeed not fulfilling their "Duty of Care" to all Defence members paying into the compulsory Defence superannuation schemes? (C) Should not Gough Whitlam himself be held accountable for misappropiating our DFRDB/DFRB funds to help alleviate his Government's lack of ready finance during 1972/74 ? (D) Should not the Chief of the Defence Force and Chiefs of Army, Navy and Air Force during 1972/74, be similarly held accountable for allowing such a travesty of justice to occur in relation to the future financial security of their TROOPS by way of the misappropriation of funds from the DFRDB/DFRB superannuation schemes and indeed, allowing Whitlam to place such schemes into consolidated revenue right before their very eyes? (E) The current Government prides itself on "Fair Play" and treating all Australians "equally and justly"! Are we now to see the Government backing up these platitudes and perhaps carrying out "equality and justice" in regard to future non taxing of superannuation entitlements to all Australians? I await your response with eager anticipation! Persevere Bernie McGurgan (A Veteran) CONTACT DETAILS DELETED FOR PRIVACY REASONS. |
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Richard
Aug 9th, 2006 - 12:32 PM |
Re: Tax, DFRDB and Other Matters
I am somewhat surprised to see little if any comment on our current $0.25 a kilometre paid by DVA for travel costs especially with the runnaway petrol prices at the moment which are as sure as death and taxes to go up a great deal more in the short term. I wonder what Mr. Crews thinks on this issue, he probably gets a government vehicle provided for by our illustrious leader when on RSL busines of screwing his fellow vets.Long live the Queen. |
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